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rubickus

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Não são, mano.
Tu viste uma coisa que não é real. Porque se reparares, quem menos loas tece aos jogadores da formação, são normalmente quem os conhece bem e mais tempo perde a ver os seus jogos. Como é o caso do @Vlk .
Vês, lá está, endeusamentos irracionais que não têm qualquer conexão com a realidade. Os miúdos são bons, mas calma.
endeusamentos? Mas tamos a brincar?
Vai ver o gozo que o andre silva levava no topico dele. Users a ficarem todos contentes porque nao marcava no sevilha , ou porque era substituido aos 60minutos. Desapareceram agora, tudo a assobiar para o lado.

Eu nao acho que por serem da formacao tem de jogar, isso seria uma estupidez, agora que há gente que fica de pau feito quando um miudo joga mal ou é vendido é inegavel.
 

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endeusamentos? Mas tamos a brincar?
Vai ver o gozo que o andre silva levava no topico dele. Users a ficarem todos contentes porque nao marcava no sevilha , ou porque era substituido aos 60minutos. Desapareceram agora, tudo a assobiar para o lado.

Eu nao acho que por serem da formacao tem de jogar, isso seria uma estupidez, agora que há gente que fica de pau feito quando um miudo joga mal ou é vendido é inegavel.
Não vês endeusamentos? Mas estamos a brincar?
Eu depois deles saírem daqui são iguais aos outros. Veja-se o que se passou na lagartada quando os jogadores da formação foram os primeiros a rescindir.
Tens os dois, claro. Mas existe muito mais endeusamento que o contrário.
 
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Não vês endeusamentos? Mas estamos a brincar?
Eu depois deles saírem daqui são iguais aos outros. Veja-se o que se passou na lagartada quando os jogadores da formação foram os primeiros a rescindir.
Tens os dois, claro. Mas existe muito mais endeusamento que o contrário.
Ah sim, dá para os dois lados.
Se dependesse do outro extremo da questao tinhas um meio campo com o Castro e o andre andre ou por ai.
 
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simao977

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Ah sim, dá para os dois lados.
Se dependesse do outro extremo da questao tinhas um meio campo com o Castro e o andre andre ou por ai.
Deus ma livre, principalmente o AA.
Mas lá está, acho que falta muita cabeça fria para entender que nem tudo o que vem da formação é ouro e, muito menos, produto acabado.
 

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Segundo O JOGO, regressa para fazer (pelo menos) a pré-época. Dos emprestados será o único à partida a fazê-lo.
 

lpmacedo

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Deus ma livre, principalmente o AA.
Mas lá está, acho que falta muita cabeça fria para entender que nem tudo o que vem da formação é ouro e, muito menos, produto acabado.
Mas muitos que vieram da formação serviam perfeitamente para fazer posições, e melhor figura, de contratações de milhões. Depois há alguns a cima da média que deviam ser valorizados ao máximo antes de serem vendidos.
 

simao977

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Mas muitos que vieram da formação serviam perfeitamente para fazer posições, e melhor figura, de contratações de milhões. Depois há alguns a cima da média que deviam ser valorizados ao máximo antes de serem vendidos.
A diferença é que um já sabes o teto, que não será muito alto; o que vem de fora prevês que seja superior ao que tens cá. E apostas falhadas haverão sempre.
 

Filipe01

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Quanto gastamos com o Nanu??

Tomás podia perfeitamente ter ficado e poupavamos uma aquisição e um ordenado.

São estas escgas que é deixam podre.

Que seja possível recuperar este investimento.
 
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Quanto gastamos com o Nanu??

Tomás podia perfeitamente ter ficado e poupavamos uma aquisição e um ordenado.

São estas escgas que é deixam podre.

Que seja possível recuperar este investimento.
Só se o barão das ilhas devolver a pasta.
 

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o pessoal esquece-se que o Corona jogou várias vezes a lateral direito...

e o treinador era o mesmo.
 

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Would you sign Esteves or Semedo?


"They've both been pretty average at best, but Esteves is still very young, and should have a decent career. If they were both offered to us for free, I'd take Esteves but not Semedo. I doubt we'll be signing either of them, so hopefully we won't see them in the last two games."

"Esteves has been under used. Semedo just didn’t seem a fit for how we play.
Definitely no to Semedo and a probable no to Esteves."

" Unreservedly no on Esteves.
Maybe for a low price for Semedo if there isn't another decent loan option or cheap available."

" Joking?
Neither for me."

"When Semedo has played defensive midfield he has looked useful but has not had much opportunity as Rino and Laurent have mainly been fit. Would like to see him back if affordable but Esteves would be a definite no for me."

"I put esteves yes and esteves no"

" Esteves has a bright future and will shine elsewhere.
Semedo is just another overrated foreign player who has graced these shores. Complete waste of space adds nothing to the team. One suspects a signing made out of desperation rather than being scouted."

"They were both reasonable enough. Semedo did a good job for us overall. Esteves has talent but unsurprisingly found at the age of 18 it quite tough going in the champ. He’ll be a decent player in time
I’d definitely take Esteves if we could afford/offered (we won’t on either). Semedo prob not really. But he didn’t disgrace himself"

"Esteves yes, Semedo no."

"Esteves no.
Semedo abso-fukcing-lutely not."

"no"

"Esteves no, Semedo I wouldn't pay above the average salary for him"

" I’d take Semedo on a free, he’s a solid back-up player who did a job. With our budget stretched so thin, I wouldn’t pay more than a nominal fee.
I wouldn’t take Esteves based on his current ability, but he is likely to have resale value. Whether he can realise that value with us is another matter."

" There are better players out there,for the same amount of money.Maybe Estevez on loan for another season;there is something there if somebody at the Club can move him forward."

"Esteves is very very raw. Much more than I had expected given how coveted he was when he arrived. Yes, the Championship is a different (and much more physical) league and there was always going to be a period of adapting, but I feel he's never got past that really pushed on. It's been one of those bide the time, tread water loans where he's probably got better but not to our benefit. No doubt he'll have a great career and be a stellar RB within a few years, but I feel like we've had the worst of him. Not quite as bad as Gibson, who'll be lucky to be turning out for Tranmere next season, but just a bit meh.

Semedo. Could/should have been reasonable cover for Rino and Laurent, but gets pushed forward into an unfamiliar position. I don't think, aside from a few moments of brilliance, he has ever really done enough to justify not trying someone else, and have thought quite a few times when he started that VP should have tried Aluko/Onen etc. Won't miss him.

Summary, if we could, I'd take Esteves and continue his development. No to Semedo."


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Would you sign Esteves or Semedo?


"They've both been pretty average at best, but Esteves is still very young, and should have a decent career. If they were both offered to us for free, I'd take Esteves but not Semedo. I doubt we'll be signing either of them, so hopefully we won't see them in the last two games."

"Esteves has been under used. Semedo just didn’t seem a fit for how we play.
Definitely no to Semedo and a probable no to Esteves."

" Unreservedly no on Esteves.
Maybe for a low price for Semedo if there isn't another decent loan option or cheap available."

" Joking?
Neither for me."

"When Semedo has played defensive midfield he has looked useful but has not had much opportunity as Rino and Laurent have mainly been fit. Would like to see him back if affordable but Esteves would be a definite no for me."

"I put esteves yes and esteves no"

" Esteves has a bright future and will shine elsewhere.
Semedo is just another overrated foreign player who has graced these shores. Complete waste of space adds nothing to the team. One suspects a signing made out of desperation rather than being scouted."

"They were both reasonable enough. Semedo did a good job for us overall. Esteves has talent but unsurprisingly found at the age of 18 it quite tough going in the champ. He’ll be a decent player in time
I’d definitely take Esteves if we could afford/offered (we won’t on either). Semedo prob not really. But he didn’t disgrace himself"

"Esteves yes, Semedo no."

"Esteves no.
Semedo abso-fukcing-lutely not."

"no"

"Esteves no, Semedo I wouldn't pay above the average salary for him"

" I’d take Semedo on a free, he’s a solid back-up player who did a job. With our budget stretched so thin, I wouldn’t pay more than a nominal fee.
I wouldn’t take Esteves based on his current ability, but he is likely to have resale value. Whether he can realise that value with us is another matter."

" There are better players out there,for the same amount of money.Maybe Estevez on loan for another season;there is something there if somebody at the Club can move him forward."

"Esteves is very very raw. Much more than I had expected given how coveted he was when he arrived. Yes, the Championship is a different (and much more physical) league and there was always going to be a period of adapting, but I feel he's never got past that really pushed on. It's been one of those bide the time, tread water loans where he's probably got better but not to our benefit. No doubt he'll have a great career and be a stellar RB within a few years, but I feel like we've had the worst of him. Not quite as bad as Gibson, who'll be lucky to be turning out for Tranmere next season, but just a bit meh.

Semedo. Could/should have been reasonable cover for Rino and Laurent, but gets pushed forward into an unfamiliar position. I don't think, aside from a few moments of brilliance, he has ever really done enough to justify not trying someone else, and have thought quite a few times when he started that VP should have tried Aluko/Onen etc. Won't miss him.

Summary, if we could, I'd take Esteves and continue his development. No to Semedo."


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Até vais ao fórum do Reading sim sr



Que gosto ver alguém tão empenhado num jogador
 

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Would you sign Esteves or Semedo?


"They've both been pretty average at best, but Esteves is still very young, and should have a decent career. If they were both offered to us for free, I'd take Esteves but not Semedo. I doubt we'll be signing either of them, so hopefully we won't see them in the last two games."

"Esteves has been under used. Semedo just didn’t seem a fit for how we play.
Definitely no to Semedo and a probable no to Esteves."

" Unreservedly no on Esteves.
Maybe for a low price for Semedo if there isn't another decent loan option or cheap available."

" Joking?
Neither for me."

"When Semedo has played defensive midfield he has looked useful but has not had much opportunity as Rino and Laurent have mainly been fit. Would like to see him back if affordable but Esteves would be a definite no for me."

"I put esteves yes and esteves no"

" Esteves has a bright future and will shine elsewhere.
Semedo is just another overrated foreign player who has graced these shores. Complete waste of space adds nothing to the team. One suspects a signing made out of desperation rather than being scouted."

"They were both reasonable enough. Semedo did a good job for us overall. Esteves has talent but unsurprisingly found at the age of 18 it quite tough going in the champ. He’ll be a decent player in time
I’d definitely take Esteves if we could afford/offered (we won’t on either). Semedo prob not really. But he didn’t disgrace himself"

"Esteves yes, Semedo no."

"Esteves no.
Semedo abso-fukcing-lutely not."

"no"

"Esteves no, Semedo I wouldn't pay above the average salary for him"

" I’d take Semedo on a free, he’s a solid back-up player who did a job. With our budget stretched so thin, I wouldn’t pay more than a nominal fee.
I wouldn’t take Esteves based on his current ability, but he is likely to have resale value. Whether he can realise that value with us is another matter."

" There are better players out there,for the same amount of money.Maybe Estevez on loan for another season;there is something there if somebody at the Club can move him forward."

"Esteves is very very raw. Much more than I had expected given how coveted he was when he arrived. Yes, the Championship is a different (and much more physical) league and there was always going to be a period of adapting, but I feel he's never got past that really pushed on. It's been one of those bide the time, tread water loans where he's probably got better but not to our benefit. No doubt he'll have a great career and be a stellar RB within a few years, but I feel like we've had the worst of him. Not quite as bad as Gibson, who'll be lucky to be turning out for Tranmere next season, but just a bit meh.

Semedo. Could/should have been reasonable cover for Rino and Laurent, but gets pushed forward into an unfamiliar position. I don't think, aside from a few moments of brilliance, he has ever really done enough to justify not trying someone else, and have thought quite a few times when he started that VP should have tried Aluko/Onen etc. Won't miss him.

Summary, if we could, I'd take Esteves and continue his development. No to Semedo."


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O Tamas é um craque.. mas é ainda muito curto! Nada que já nao soubéssemos!
 
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